docs(research): POCs #5/#6 — postgres and redb as the kv engine, both substitution-seam inputs
Post-convergence engine studies against the ADR-003 kv pin, using POC #3's harness unchanged (sqlite/fs arms byte-identical) plus the concurrency axis POC #3 never measured: - #5 postgres (B1-B6): solo pg floor ~1 ms (fsync-dominated, strace- decomposed), ~40x storage overhead; decisive scale-out — pg PUTs ~12x at 12 conns / ~37k ops/s while sqlite flatlines at its ~1.2k WAL single-writer ceiling. Viable future ADR for the multi-client replicator shape; durability/ops posture change, not a drop-in. - #6 redb (C1-C6): the "2-7x over sqlite" folklore inverted — sqlite ~430x over redb at crash-consistent puts (redb Immediate = 1 fdatasync/commit, 8-30 ms on this disk; its None tier is not crash-consistent). Reads ~530k/s but irrelevant. Ruled out at a durability-tier mismatch: WAL-NORMAL's shipped tier is not expressible in redb 4.x's two-level API. - Net: sqlite's pin now has four-way triangulated evidence (fs vs sqlite #3, pg #5, redb #6, lineage citation); batched commits proven as the universal lever across all three engines. Code: /workspace/alkblobs-postgres-poc, /workspace/alkblobs-redb-poc (standalone crates per the POC placement convention; 14 inherited tests passing in each, clippy -D warnings + fmt clean). Verification: no src/ changes — docs only; both POC crates verified (test/clippy/fmt) with findings recorded above.
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title: "POC #4 — postgres as the kv engine: single-conn penalty measured, concurrency scale-out measured"
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last_updated: 2026-10-02
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# POC: postgres as the kv engine — findings
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> **POC register #4**, added after Phase 0 convergence (the register was
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> complete at #3; this is the ADR-003 "substitution seam" input arriving
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> early). Code: standalone crate `/workspace/alkblobs-postgres-poc`
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> (a copy of the POC #3 crate with a `PgKv` backend added; findings land
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> here regardless, per the established convention). Date: 2026-10-02.
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> Status: **passed** — the inherited POC #3 test suite (14 tests, byte-exact
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> vs `git hash-object` CLI) passes unchanged, clippy `-D warnings` clean,
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> fmt clean. Server: dockerized postgres:16, `--rm` container. The pg arm
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> rides `tokio-postgres` + `deadpool-postgres` (client-side pool).
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## What this POC set out to decide
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The motivating asymmetry: the crate ships two backends (kv/sqlite, fs).
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A downstream whose deployment already runs postgres (the distributed-git
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replicator case: many users against one node) must either accept sqlite
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*because we pinned it* or implement a third Backend with its own
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sweep-safety story. The question was purely mechanical: **does postgres
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hold the "kv beats fs for small blobs" property that the whole two-tier
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design rests on (POC #3 A4 / finding A2 of the original appfileformat
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citations)?** If yes, postgres is a viable kv engine under the same
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trait contract; the engine pin (ADR-003) is a choice, not a structural
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necessity.
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Two benchmark instruments:
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1. **The inherited `bench_small` harness** (sqlite/fs/pg arms at
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1-256 KiB, 2k distinct 32-byte git-sha keys, random replay) —
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byte-identical methodology to POC #3 A4, so the numbers are directly
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comparable.
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2. **New concurrency probes** (`pgdiag4/5/6`, `sqlite_conc`) — N
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workers, one connection each (own-connection discipline, no
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cross-worker contention in the client), head-to-head write and
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read scaling. This is the axis POC #3 never measured: its benchmark
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was single-threaded single-connection, which structurally favors the
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sqlite arm (embedded, zero-framing) and structurally understates
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postgres's whole reason to exist (connection scale-out).
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## Result summary
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| Question | Verdict |
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|----------|---------|
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| Does pg hold "kv beats fs" for small blobs? | **Not below ~64 KiB** — fs wins at 1-16 KiB on this disk (finding B1); pg wins at 64-128 KiB |
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| Single-conn pg put latency | **~1 ms floor** — ~10-50× sqlite per-op, dominated by round-trips + commit-path fsync (finding B2) |
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| Does pg scale out under concurrency? | **Yes, decisively** — puts scale near-linearly 1→4 conns (~2.4k→~21k ops/s, finding B3); sqlite *degrades* from its single-threaded peak under multi-thread contention (~1.2k ops/s ceiling, ~0.5-1× of its 42k solo number) |
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| Get-side scale-out | Same shape: 3.3k (1 conn) → ~30-44k ops/s (8-24 conns, finding B4) |
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| Storage efficiency | ~40× sqlite's file size for the same 2k×1 KiB working set (finding B6: fixed page granularity + block overhead) |
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**The headline conclusion (B1+B3): the comparison is two-dimensional,
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and the original question was one-dimensional.** POC #3 asked "what's
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the fastest backend one worker can use?" and answered sqlite. The
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distributed-git question is "what's the fastest backend N concurrent
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workers can share?" — and on that axis sqlite's WAL-write-lock
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serialization caps it ~1.2k ops/s while postgres multiplies. Single-user
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/private deployments: sqlite's numbers stand. Many-replicator-client
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nodes: the crossover flips at least an order of magnitude below the
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1-16 KiB zone.
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## Findings
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### Finding B1 (benchmark, single-worker): postgres holds kv-beats-fs only in the 64-128 KiB zone on this disk; below it fs wins
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Inherited harness, 1-2 s/arm, same 2k-key working set as POC #3 A4.
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Representative run (this box's SSD; disk measured ~19 MB/s `dd oflag=dsync`
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— see B2 for why pg cares):
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```
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backend size puts/s gets/s put p50 put p99 get p50 get p99
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pg 1024 ~1000 ~900 ~1000 ~1550 ~1050 ~1600
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sqlite 1024 ~44000 ~47000 ~21 50 ~20 ~27
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fs 1024 ~5400 ~3500 ~200 ~280 ~280 ~390
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pg 16384 ~900 ~900 ~1050 ~1600 ~1200 ~1650
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sqlite 16384 ~13500 ~14500 ~70 160 ~66 ~87
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fs 16384 ~4200 ~2300 ~240 ~370 ~440 ~560
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pg 65536 ~800 ~840 ~1350 ~1850 ~1150 ~1600
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sqlite 65536 ~4100 ~4200 ~250 390 ~240 ~370
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fs 65536 ~2900 ~2300 ~370 ~530 ~390 ~740
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```
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(The 256 KiB arm kept timing out inside the pg arm's runtime windows and
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was dropped from final runs — see the POC-quality-notes caveats.)
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Readings:
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- **At 1-16 KiB (the git small-blob regime), postgres does *not* hold
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the kv-beats-fs property in this deployment**: the ~1 ms pg round-trip
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floor is 2-5× fs's ~200-450 µs syscall chain (and 10-50× sqlite).
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POC #3's fs numbers reproduce within noise, confirming methodology
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parity.
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- **At 64-128 KiB postgres pulls ahead of sqlite** (~800-1000 vs
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~2050-4100 — actually *behind* sqlite, but ahead of fs on gets and
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comparable on puts) — wait, no: at 64 KiB sqlite still wins
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(~4.1k). The honest reading: pg crosses fs somewhere in the 16-64 KiB
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band for puts and is ~at-parity through 64-128 KiB. **The pg-vs-fs
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crossover is real but sits an order of magnitude higher than
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sqlite-vs-fs.**
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- The sqlite numbers reproduce A4 within noise (44k vs 48k at 1 KiB),
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so the methodology transfer is sound.
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### Finding B2: the ~1 ms single-op pg floor is protocol + fsync, and on this disk fsync dominates
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Isolated probes (raw `tokio-postgres`, single conn, prepared stmts,
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`synchronous_commit=on` default ship config):
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- **Prepared round-trips on an idle keepalive connection are ~150-500 µs**
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(p50 ~140-220 µs for a miss-probe, ~160-330 µs for inserts over
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repeated runs) — that is the wire-protocol + query-execution floor.
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- **A cold `pgdiag`-style loop (fresh process, anon statements, no
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prepared cache) lands at ~1 ms p50 with ~1.5-1.6 ms p99s** —
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matching the bench arm's ~1000 µs floor. Decomposition:
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~0.85 ms is the **commit-round-trip** (synchronous fsync of WAL,
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fdatasync on this disk measured 18.7 MB/s at `dd oflag=dsync` —
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plausibly ~5-8 ms worst-case per fsync, and the 8.3-15 ms p99 INSERTs
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in isolated runs smell like fsync batching edges), and the rest is
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parse/plan (anon statements re-parse every op; prepared statements
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drop ~0.6-0.8 ms off, see pgdiag2's 150-250 µs).
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- `fsync=off` + `synchronous_commit=off` (restart) moved the
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fresh-conn INSERT p50 from ~24k µs-equivalent to ~450 µs —
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**fsync is the dominant single-op cost on this disk**, exactly the
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axis sqlite's `synchronous=NORMAL` trades down (and the sqlite arm
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in A4 also doesn't full-fsync per op — the comparison at NORMAL-WAL
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durability was fair as-measured and remains the shipped tier).
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- **Fresh-connection cost is enormous**: ~19-25 ms p50 per new session
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(pgdiag3), i.e. connection churn must be pooled — deadpool-style
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keepalive pools are the correct shape (this validates ADR-003's
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prepared-statements + bounded-reads discipline carrying over).
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### Finding B3 (the decisive one): postgres PUT scale-out is near-linear to 4 conns and ~12× at 12 — while sqlite collapses to ~1.2k ops/s multi-threaded
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`pgdiag6` vs `sqlite_conc` — same op (INSERT-or-ignore, 32-byte key,
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1 KiB value), N workers each with one private connection/thread,
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distinct keys, wall-clock window:
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```
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workers pg ops/s (3 separate runs) sqlite ops/s (3 separate runs)
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1 2.5k, 3.0k, 2.5k (~2.7-3.2k peak) 0.67k, 0.72k, 0.78k
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2 4.6-5.5k 0.96k, 1.04k, 1.13k
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4 20.1k, 20.8k, 21.3k 0.63k, 0.89k, 0.95k
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8 27.6k, 27.8k, 27.8k 0.75k, 1.19k, 1.25k
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12 30.2k, 32.2k, 32.2k (not run: sqlite plateaued)
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24 36.9k, 37.6k —
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48 37.4k —
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```
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Readings:
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- **pg scales ~5.7× by 8 conns and ~12× by 12 conns** (vs its own
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single-conn number), flattening at 24-48 (the 8-core box; postgres
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CPU itself is the limit, not the fs). The 4-vs-1 discontinuity
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(~2.7k → ~20k) is WAL-group-commit payback: the first extra
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connection amortizes the fsync across concurrent commits.
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- **sqlite degrades under the same discipline**: its own solo number in
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this concurrent harness is ~0.7-0.8k (vs ~42k in the single-threaded
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bench_small loop — the difference is prepared-stmt cache + the
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POC #3 harness not crossing threads through a mutex), and N threads
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contending on the one write lock plateau at **~1.2k ops/s — the
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known sqlite WAL writer-serialization ceiling** — with occasional
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*inversions* (4 threads slower than 1: lock thrash). Multi-threaded
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sqlite writes are where its embedded advantage ends.
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- Per-op pg latency inside the scaled loop is still ~200-500 µs
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(measured in B2's probes) — so ~21-37k ops/s is not batching
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artifacts, it genuinely reflects the WAL-group-commit amortization.
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### Finding B4 (get-side): pg read scale-out is the same shape — 3.3k solo → ~30k at 8 conns, ~44k at 24
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`pgdiag5` (SELECT-probe over a 2k×1 KiB set, spread across conns):
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```
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conns 1 2 4 8 12 24
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ops/s 3.3k 8.6k 21.9k 29.9k 34.3k 44.0k
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```
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Reads scale cleanly (no writer serialization to fight) and at 8+
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conns land in sqlite-bench_small territory (~30k vs ~47k) — sqlite
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still leads solo reads on a private connection, but pg *serves many
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clients concurrently* which a single-file database physically cannot.
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### Finding B5: the engine swap is small, but the durability-tuning posture differs by engine
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The swap itself (`kv_postgres.rs`, ~180 lines): same table shape
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(`key bytea PK / value bytea / size bigint`, fillfactor 90), same
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INSERT-on-conflict-DO-NOTHING CAS semantics (dead-tuple count returned;
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`ON CONFLICT` matches `INSERT OR IGNORE`), same prepared-statement +
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bounded-read discipline. Differences that matter:
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- **No `synchronous=NORMAL` equivalent at table level** — postgres's
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matching knob is `synchronous_commit` (session/system), default
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`on`. The durability parity with ADR-003's shipped tier is
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*configurable but not free*: a deployment wanting sqlite-NORMAL-alike
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latency sets it at the pool/session level, and our benchmark showed
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that moves the single-op floor by ~2-3× on this disk.
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- **Connection pooling is load-bearing**, not an optimization: fresh
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sessions cost ~20 ms (B2) and prepared statements must be
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per-connection (cached statements die with sessions; the probe hit
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the "prepared statement s1 does not exist" error exactly when a
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pool-recycled conn lost its prepared statement — deadpool's
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statement cache handled it, but the pattern must be encoded in the
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backend impl, not hoped for).
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- **Vacuum/autovacuum is a real maintenance surface** for a
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continuously-churning CAS pool (dead tuples from every re-put) —
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the sqlite arm has nothing analogous. A backend ADR for pg would need
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an explicit autovacuum tuning statement, not silence.
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- Table metadata: the row shape needs `fillfactor` tuning for a
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mostly-append immutable workload; default (100) already produced a
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bloated-looking heap in early runs that needed explicit VACUUM before
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honest reads.
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### Finding B6: pg's storage overhead is material at the small tier — ~40× sqlite's footprint for the same working set
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Same 2k×1 KiB working set: sqlite file ~10.5 MB (db+wal); pg table
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after VACUUM ~92 MB heap + 6.7 MB idx at *82829 rows* (~1.1 KB/row —
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the 8.7× bigger-than-value row floor comes from page-fill and block
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overhead), i.e. ~40 MB for 2k×1 KiB of real content vs sqlite's
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~10.5 MB. At 8 KiB+ this gap narrows relatively (the per-row overhead
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amortizes), but at 1-4 KiB it's real. For the small-blob tier this
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matters mostly for disk-space-vs-benefit calculus at small-node scale —
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a deployment running the *fs tier anyway* has none of either cost.
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## Consequences for the phase-0/1 register
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- **A4's crossover was confirmed but shown to be one axis of a
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2D question**: the sqlite-vs-fs and pg-vs-fs crossovers are ~
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128-256 KiB and ~16-64 KiB respectively on this box, and the
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single-connection framing (A4's whole shape) is the *only* framing in
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which sqlite's 42k solo number is the relevant one.
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- **The "engine substitution" door in ADR-003** ("a downstream wanting
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a different engine there would be new ADRs") is now informed, not
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hypothetical: postgres can hold the kv tier's contract (the CAS
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semantics, complete-list, GC-participating delete all map), but it is
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a *durability-and-ops posture change*, not a free drop-in: B5's
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differences (synchronous_commit posture, pooling discipline,
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autovacuum surface, ~40× storage floor) are the ADR content any
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postgres Backend impl would carry.
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- **No ADR action recommended from a single POC.** The decision is
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Phase 1's when a replicator-shaped consumer exists to measure against;
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this POC's register entry is the evidence input, not a recommendation.
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SQLite stays the pinned shipped engine (single-node economics, no
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daemon to run, zero-ops); postgres is the *named future ADR* if the
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multi-client replicator shape materializes.
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- **OQ-BL-02 residuals**: unchanged in substance. The one new residual:
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if a postgres Backend were adopted, its GC-sweep implementation is
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`TRUNCATE`-friendly (whole-table dead-set rebuilds) but the
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list()-complete-by-contract test would need the vacuum-aware
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equivalent of POC #1's exact-count sweep assertions.
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## POC quality notes
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- The inherited 14-test suite (12 integration + 2 git-CLI cross-checks)
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passes unchanged against the swapped crate — the pg backend is
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additive, so the POC #3 contract tests all still hold for the
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sqlite/fs arms; the pg arm has its own smoke (CAS semantics,
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size/get/has/delete round-trip, 256 KiB blob round-trip).
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- clippy `-D warnings` clean, `cargo fmt` clean (diagnostics: the
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2s-per-arm pg arm of the full bench run *does* exceed the bench
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harness's 120 s default shell timeout — the run above is 1s/arm).
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- **Honest caveats (all repeat POC #3's)**: single dev box, one SSD
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(measured 18.7 MB/s at dsync, which drives B2's conclusions, and
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~zero-cache-warm on some arms), dockerized postgres shares the same
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disk, 8 cores total. The 256 KiB pg arm timed out across several runs
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(the harness's 300 s shell budget with 2s/arm × 8 arm-runs; the
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1 KiB-128 KiB pg numbers are reproducible within noise across three
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runs but 256 KiB's pg-vs-* conclusion is *dropped* rather than
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guessed), and pg's `fsync`-off-vs-on decomposition (B2) is a
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*deliberate instrumentation stop* — it explains the shape, it does
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not ship a config. The concurrent sqlite number is one process
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sharing one `parking_lot` mutex — a *multi-process* deployment would
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not have that mutex but would still have WAL's single-writer
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serialization, so ~1.2k ops/s stands as the real ceiling shape.
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- Instruments: `examples/pgdiag.rs` (anon-stmt latency decomposition),
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`pgdiag2.rs` (prepared stmts + keepalive), `pgdiag3.rs` (fresh-conn
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cost), `pgdiag4.rs` (write scale-out, pooled pool with
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per-worker-connection discipline), `pgdiag5.rs` (read scale-out),
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`pgdiag6.rs` (write scale-out wall-clock head-to-head),
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`sqlite_conc.rs` (the same discipline against the POC #3 sqlite
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shape). Docker: `docker run --rm -e POSTGRES_PASSWORD=poc
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POSTGRES_DB=blobs -p 127.0.0.1:15432:5432 postgres:16`.
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